'74 Charger Hellcat? I've got a friend...

"BaconSandwich is tasty." (baconsandwich) 01/06/2015 at 18:23 • Filed to: None

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I've got a friend who is interested in putting a Hellcat engine into a classic ('74) Charger. He's got the funds and desire to do it, but he doesn't have a garage. He could also likely use a set of experienced hands to help him out/do some of the work.

Are there any shops/mechanics/Opponauts in the San Francisco area that would be willing to take on such a project? I can imagine that most shops won't let a customer help out with the work because of liability. I know of places that will rent out garage space and even tools, but it would be better for him (and the project) if he was to work with someone on it. Any idea where my friend could look for someone to help him out with this?

505Turbeaux > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/06/2015 at 18:26

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what is a hellcat crate motor running? I didnt think they were out yet...or is he waiting for a wrecked one to come up?

OPPOsaurus WRX > 505Turbeaux 01/06/2015 at 18:29

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waiting.? It only took a couple days for people to start wrecking those

BaconSandwich is tasty. > 505Turbeaux 01/06/2015 at 18:30

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Supposedly about $17k: https://www.facebook.com/PlumFloored/po…

Really not that bad, compared to a lot of other things out there.

EDIT: Looks more like $21k: http://plumfloored.com/hellcat-crate-…

Twism > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/06/2015 at 18:32

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Mopar forums, like Allpar or Moparforum would be a good place to start, maybe find someone between two projects and with some free time.

If/when he finds a Hellcat engine, keep us posted on how much he paid for it. I may have similar swap in mind...

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Twism 01/06/2015 at 18:34

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I'll point him Allpar/Moparforum, and I'll certainly keep everyone here posted.

505Turbeaux > OPPOsaurus WRX 01/06/2015 at 18:35

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yeah but you know there are some deep pockets lying in wait already for the hardware from those!

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > 505Turbeaux 01/06/2015 at 18:36

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Sounds like this guy has internet money...I wouldn't worry about it too much.

505Turbeaux > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/06/2015 at 18:37

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damn, looks like it is high time to get me a tow truck and bag me some cats :)

505Turbeaux > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 01/06/2015 at 18:38

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I love that internet chedda

190e30-Now with COSWORTH > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/06/2015 at 18:46

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Yes. I'm useless to you and I'm sorry, but yes.

Jedidiah > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/06/2015 at 18:56

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Wouldn't it just be cheaper/easier to supercharge a 440 or 426?

Either way, he's gonna have to do all kinds of suspension strengthening to handle the power and possibly a race tranny if the transmission doesn't come with the motor.

IMHO, this sounds like an expensive and difficult undertaking that will result in a car that will not be rewarding to drive for the money he sinks into it.

It sounds like he needs a reality check and needs to put some serious research into the custom fabrication and heavy duty parts that will be required for such a car.

wantafuncar > Jedidiah 01/06/2015 at 19:52

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I agree about fabrication — I'm sure he would be an early adopter of this engine in a classic mopar.

As far as everything else - I disagree. I believe there are off the shelf parts available for every other vehicle system on something as popular as a classic Challenger. I know you could get an indy cylinder crate hemi pushing over 700hp for years now...

BaconSandwich is tasty. > 505Turbeaux 01/06/2015 at 20:28

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True - but that would also include my friend. Working in silicon valley has its perks. :)

BaconSandwich is tasty. > 190e30-Now with COSWORTH 01/06/2015 at 20:29

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Care to expound on that?

190e30-Now with COSWORTH > BaconSandwich is tasty. 01/06/2015 at 20:31

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Props to your friend for potentially winning at cars.

Jedidiah > wantafuncar 01/06/2015 at 22:14

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It's not really about the motor he puts into it; it's making sure the rest of the car doesn't tear itself apart when he steps on the gas pedal. To make that chasis handle 700 HP, it's going to basically be a drag car.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Jedidiah 01/06/2015 at 23:28

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You might be right about the 440/426, but I think he wants the Hellcat, if only for the name.

wantafuncar > Jedidiah 01/07/2015 at 10:07

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I agree with you — as I said, there are off the shelf parts to upgrade nearly every other vehicle system to keep up with that power level. I don't know what you guys are missing, but: that power level in a car like the Challenger is nothing new.

It does not have to be a drag car. In a five second google search, I found several pro touring Challengers in the 600-700hp range (if you didn't know, these are cars designed to handle, stop, and go and run can be run on courses like autox at car shows such as goodguys). Of course they have an insane amount of parts and upgrades, but if you're spending $20k on an engine, I'm sure you aren't afraid to upgrade the whole car.

Jedidiah > wantafuncar 01/07/2015 at 16:58

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A pro-touring car built to those specs is going to be about as rewarding on public roads as a drag car.

If it is built properly; it will be brutal, and there is no avoiding that.